What does "success" actually mean to you — and are you sure you'd recognize it if you had it?

This week, Benjamin Howes and Patrick Richwood get real about the messy, moving target that is "making it" as an actor. Benjamin kicks things off fresh from a Bhangra boot camp (yes, at 55, and yes, his body survived), then the conversation turns to the big question: what does success actually feel like, and why do we so rarely say out loud what we're really chasing?

They talk fame vs. simply being "recognizable," the surreal experience of being stopped in a park by a stranger who's seen your work, the financial milestones that quietly redefine what success means, and why turning down work doesn't always feel as good as you'd think. Plus: opening night party survival tactics (bring a sandwich), the "divine dissatisfaction" that never really goes away no matter how far you climb, and why comparing yourself to your past self might be the only comparison worth making.

By the end, they land somewhere neither of them expected: maybe success was never about the external markers at all — maybe it's just happiness, in disguise.